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The Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival Ends

Early the afternoon of May 16, a message appeared on the various official websites and social-media outlets of the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival:

Thank You and Good Night

We have decided not to continue with BCGF. We had a great run and thank all of our colleagues for their support.

While rumors of troubles between the festival’s three founding partners had been spreading over the past few months, the announcement still took many by surprise. Since its 2009 founding by three prominent members of the independent comics world—Gabriel Fowler, owner of Desert Island; scholar and programming coordinator Bill Kartalopoulos; and Dan Nadel, publisher of PictureBox (and co-editor of this website)—the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival, held every winter at the Our Lady of Mount Carmel church in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, had become one of the most influential, admired, and seemingly successful festivals for independent comics in the United States, and was seen as a model for several similar-minded shows that arrived in its wake. The abrupt announcement of its demise led to widespread dismay and surprise.

One of those expressing surprise at the announcement was founding partner Gabriel Fowler himself. When asked late yesterday to confirm the accuracy of the announcement, Fowler replied via e-mail, “You’ll have to ask the person who posted it,” and added that the message was not posted with his blessing. Fowler says that he wished to continue the show, but was prevented from doing so by his partners. He blames “interpersonal fallout” for the show’s demise, and explained: “Dan wanted to step away from the show due to other commitments, and I then failed to come to terms with Bill. I wanted to continue the show on my own and was told that it was impossible.”

Fowler says that he ultimately proposed “transforming the festival into a non-profit organization with a larger board of directors to diffuse any interpersonal tension,” but says that this proposal was rejected. What exactly were the terms that Fowler and Kartalopoulos failed to agree upon? “I’d rather not get into this, but it hinges on ownership of the festival,” Fowler says. “I was also hopeful that the formation of a non-profit organization would diffuse ego-driven issues related to ownership.”

Dan Nadel acknowledges via e-mail that he and Kartalopoulos made the announcement without Fowler’s involvement. “Bill and I felt it was necessary, and the majority has always carried the vote with BCGF.” However, he disputes some of Fowler’s claims about the reasons for the show’s ending. “I don’t think it was personal so much as business,” Nadel wrote in an e-mail. “Due to various professional obligations and time constraints, I no longer wanted to be involved, but stayed on to (I hoped) ease the transition into it being either a two-person organization or to help bring in a third to replace me. This transition proved more difficult than any of us anticipated. Without getting into too many details, we could not agree on terms for how the show should proceed. We offered Gabe a number of ways to continue the show, but he refused all terms, and ultimately negotiations broke down. That was effectively the end. Without any way to resolve the issues at hand, we were forced to call it a day. I want to make clear that I really hope there’s no ill will around this. I have a huge amount of respect and affection for Gabe and Bill both. This bit of business just couldn’t be worked out.”

Reached by telephone, Bill Kartalopoulos says that the announcement “reflected a majority agreement of the partnership that organizes the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival.”

Asked to give his version of the events leading to the festival’s dissolution, Kartalopoulos says that “the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival has always been a collaboration between PictureBox (i.e., Dan), Desert Island in the person of Gabe Fowler, and myself. The festival has been a product of that collaboration. We collaborated for four years, we put together four great festivals. Even though I expect to continue to work with both of those guys in a variety of ways, we’re not collaborating anymore, so the show, which I think is very specifically a product of the collaboration of the three of us, has probably come to a natural end in part for that reason.”

Kartalopoulos elaborates: “The other thing I would say is that the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival has been a very successful event. Every year it grew beyond our expectations. I think anyone who was at the 2012 show probably observed that the festival was sort of maxing out the structure that had been built to support it. I mean both literally in terms of the space and also, I would say, organizationally. Growth is hard, and presents a lot of challenges. I think that the 2012 event represented the peak of what could be accomplished within the constraints of the current model. So even though I’m sad and upset in certain ways, I am happy to go out on a high note rather than start hitting walls.”

The upstairs exhibitor floor, during the 2012 show.

Kartalopoulos also dissents from Fowler’s characterization of the partnership dispute as hinging on ownership and interpersonal issues. “Among the majority of the members of the group I don’t think there were too many questions about the ownership of the show,” he says. “My point of view is that the festival existed as a collaboration between three people, and to the extent that for four years we were able to stay on the same page, it worked. I don’t know that I would say that there were interpersonal issues because I liked everyone who was involved with the festival. I think there were just differences on how to deal with the challenges of growth.”

Kartalopoulos says that once the partners were no longer able to agree on the same direction, the show was basically unable to continue. “I think that based on the results of last year’s festival, to continue we would need to rethink the event,” Kartalopoulos says. “We had a lot of shared momentum up to that point, and I think once three people start rethinking an event, there is a lot of possibility for them to start thinking about it in different ways that they don’t necessarily share.”

Asked to comment on Fowler’s proposal to turn the festival into a nonprofit, Kartalopoulos demurs. “There were a lot of ideas that were tossed around at various points over the years, and I don’t really want to get involved in any kind of re-litigation of any conversation about that kind of stuff,” he says. “I don’t think it is helpful or productive. I mean, you could probably come up with twelve different visions of the future we came up with at different points and I wouldn’t want to single out any one in particular. I think probably the more important barter point is just that we collaborated with a similar mindset for four years, and I think we responded to the challenges of the growth of the festival with different ideas. As a result of which we’re just not collaborating anymore.”

When informed of Kartalopoulos and Nadel’s responses, Fowler disagrees strongly. “While it’s true that the BCGF evolved into a three-person collaboration, it didn’t start that way,” Fowler writes. “It started with me alone, looking for venues and approaching artists and publishers. I started the show and would prefer to continue it, but I guess I don’t have the right if these guys don’t agree. What else can I say? I’m not a lawyer, but I resent being put in this position. All of the other details are meaningless to me.”

Chris Ware-designed poster for the 2012 BCGF.

In Kartalopoulos’s view, things aren’t so simple. “Look at any piece of material related to the festival, and it will say that the festival is a production of PictureBox, Desert Island, and Bill Kartalopoulos,” he says. “As long as those three entities are collaborating, there’s a Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival. If we’re not collaborating, then it’s something else. All three of us invested an enormous amount of creativity, intelligence, and labor in the festival over the years. We all had a stake in the festival. If I were doing it myself without Gabe and Dan, it wouldn’t be the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival, it would be something else. Really, that festival was the mutual vision of three people.”

One thing all three founding partners do agree upon is that despite some of the speculation on social media from outsiders, the show’s demise had nothing to do with financial issues. “The festival has been a ton of work for very little financial reward, but it was essentially self-sustaining,” says Fowler.

“It was both profitable and artistically rewarding,” says Nadel. “It wasn’t making a fortune, but by publishing standards it wasn’t bad at all.”

“As far as I’m concerned, money-making has never been a consideration,” says Kartalopoulos. “The festival just needs to support itself.” But he does think that the perception brings up issues worth discussing. “There’s a bigger infrastructural point here which is that a big part of the indie comics economy at this point seems to rest on the shoulders of people who work very hard for very little reward to create these festivals,” he says. “I think there are some structural issues that I hope people will start talking about, even if not as a direct result of this situation. It’s really hard and it’s really a lot of work to put together these festivals. No one is making money personally doing these things, and you can’t have an industry that depends on volunteer labor forever.

“These festivals have become so important, because there’s also a real distribution problem that the festivals are being asked to compensate for,” Kartalopoulos adds. “These are tangential issues, but they just come up in my mind when people talk about Is the festival financially sound? I’m like, Well, no! Duh! This whole industry is not financially sound. If it weren’t for people working against their financial interests we wouldn’t have an indie comics world.

“Putting that aside,” he continues, “the show always broke even, plus a little bit. I spent some time looking into larger venues, and I think that some of those could have worked out financially if there was the organizational will to make them work. With a bigger space certainly the costs do skyrocket in New York, but there was an opportunity to potentially include more exhibitors and increase those revenues. Even though it was always a part of our ethos to keep the table costs as low as possible, I think the festival was financially successful enough for most exhibitors that there could have been some logic to increasing the table cost a little bit to compensate for the increased cost of a larger venue. I don’t think it was any more unsustainable than any other festival.”

Nadel wishes things could have ended differently for BCGF. “Ideally Bill and Gabe would’ve figured out a way to move forward, but that’s not happening,” he says. “I sincerely hope something else pops up, or one of those guys starts their own festival.”

“I think we all feel a little sadness that the festival is ending,” Kartalopoulos agrees. “It’s the ending of a collaboration.”

But Kartalopoulos thinks it is important to point out the successes of the festival, as well. “A lot of things that have a big cultural impact don’t necessarily stick around too long,” he says. “The history of art and culture is full of things that lasted a few years, reached the end of their normal lifespan, but continue to have an influence. I mean, not to put it on the same level, but there’s a punk show at the Met, you know? Most of those bands didn’t last more than a couple of years. There’s no question that over the past four years the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival has inspired a lot of other festivals around the country. You could probably come up with a list of at least half a dozen festivals that have come up since then that have at least a little piece of the Brooklyn comics festival DNA in them, from having a really art-comics-focused festival, to a curated show as a model, to free-to-the-public as a model, to having a lot of off-site events that aren’t just all in some depressing convention hall, to using and integrating with the city. I mean, you could look at CAKE or The Projects. I’m looking forward to Autoptic in Minneapolis this summer, which I think should be really interesting. I think there’s a lot of this kind of stuff popping up now, and I think the show has had a really huge influence. If you are able to articulate a new vision specifically and clearly and powerfully enough you don’t necessarily have to say it over and over again, and I think in terms of articulating a different kind of vision for an independent comics festival in America, the Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival could not have articulated that more clearly or loudly than we did over the past four years.”

Kartalopoulos ended on a further positive note. “I’m very proud of everyone who was involved with the show and what we accomplished, and I am just really grateful to anyone who ever exhibited at the show, came as a guest, or came to check it out, and am grateful to Gabe and Dan for all of the hard work they did to make it happen.”

This article has been slightly edited for content and grammar since its initial publication.

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14 Responses to The Brooklyn Comics and Graphics Festival Ends

  1. Jose Medina says:

    Actually the collaboration was three years because the first year (2009) Gabe/Desert Island presented the festival and at a different location. Either way I enjoyed all four years but last year it seemed there were less people participating in the festival.

  2. Dan Nadel says:

    No, Tim has it right. PictureBox presented BCGF with Desert Island that very first year, and Bill did the programming.

  3. Sophia says:

    I believe that Bill was involved from the beginning. He organized all the panels in 2009. I just went to check on the website, but it has already been shuttered. Either way is was always the same festival.

  4. Pat says:

    “I sincerely hope something else pops up, or one of those guys starts their own festival.”

    oh, god yes, please.

  5. patrick ford says:

    You look at the mass of people in that small space and it should be fairly easy for either Desert Island or Bill to pull something together. Even if it was little more than creators selling their wares the show would be worthwhile. That ought to be the primary attraction anyhow.

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  7. Ian Harker says:

    “it’s all friendly til it ain’t” – Bill Beade

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  10. I did get a sense of this “interpersonal tension” a couple of years ago when I was invited by one of the three organizers to exhibit and was soon afterwards told that I could not attend. Naturally, I asked for an explanation and no real reason was given, just an apology and that one of the other members refused to let me be a part of the festival and would not give any further explanation. I know that there had been some issues with the this festival being curated but I’ve always been confused by this as I feel confident that my publishing efforts with Buenaventura Press and Pigeon Press have been a worthwhile and appreciated contribution to our comics community–again I did not ever apply for a table but was invited. Grossly unprofessional and baffling, though it gave me sense of something amiss with the organization early on.

    It’s a shame, despite this, I had also heard many good things about the show from friends that had attended and never got to experience it myself.

    -Alvin B.

  11. Wow, Alvin, that is just baffling. I certainly feel you have made significant contribution to the comic world and am amazed that this happened. I really feel that once one representative in the organisation extends an invitation like this, the other members are kind of stuck with that call, for better or worse. It’s really a case of “You can’t get the shit back into the horse”, y’know.

    Reading between the lines, it seems like Nadel is tacitly endorsing one of the other two guys (ie. Fowler) to relaunch a similar event in a similar time under a different name when he says ” “I sincerely hope something else pops up, or one of those guys starts their own festival.”

  12. Johnathan Dorfus McDorfus IV says:

    reminds me of the line from the spider-man theme song: Wealth and fame, He’s ignored, Action is his reward. though it sounds more like “tons of stress, and maybe some free beer” is the reward for a convention organizer.

    if you want out, I think there’s better way than an abrupt cancellation of the entire fest. especially since this isn’t the 1st convention to end in an abrupt cancellation. hopefully future convention planners will take note of this, and include an exit plan for handing off the baton to the next persons willing and eager to take on the headaches. Fowler, Kartalopoulos, and Nadel are indeed a heroic trio. but I don’t think anyone came to BCGF just to bask in the glory of their collaborative triforce. it’s important not to overlook that we now have a public enthusiastic for comics and eager to spend money who expect these shows to happen. they want to take time off work and dedicate a weekend to go on a road trip to mostly to shop for comics. they want to see the books with their own eyes and place some importance on meeting and actually putting cash directly in the artist’s hand. cancel these shows and I don’t think they will just order online or go to a comic shop(if there even is a good one in their town)

    the nature of the comics biz is shaky,and the nature of these shows is shaky, but it’s made shakier still if that audience loses confidence that these events will continue to happen, or has to expect the same show to be reborn every few years under a new names.

  13. Matt Carman says:

    Looking forward to Gabe’s new Comic Arts Brooklyn event in November.

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