Getting Biblical

On the site:

-We are thrilled to have a conversation between Jay Ruttenberg and Drew Friedman. Drew you've heard of, but Jay is one of our most favorite writer/editors in the biz. His Lowbrow Reader is the killer zine about comedy to end all killer zines about comedy.

-Yesterday ol man Frank Santoro got "Biblical" on the subject of superhero comics, and continuing his "scene report" series, has Ian Harker chiming in on the Philly scene.

And elsewhere, slim pickins in the run-up to NYCC this weekend:

-C.F. is interviewed at Heavy Mental.

-Tom Spurgeon interviews Mark Sable.

-Via Flog, a compilation of Jack Davis TV commercials.

See you soon.


4 Responses to Getting Biblical

  1. patrick ford says:

    The thing Frank brought up about personal “comics scenes” has been a subject of interest to me for awhile.

    One thing I’ve noticed is where a person lives has a tremendous amount to do with their perception of comics.

    This goes all the way back to the 60’s. Fans from New York experienced comic books in the 60’s as a large cultural phenomenon. They knew plenty of kids who read comics, and comics were apparently seen as “cool” and an actual component of 60’s culture.

    Back in those days I lived in a few small towns, and comic books were a non-factor, in fact I often wondered who was buying them, since I didn’t know kids who were reading them, didn’t even notice other kids at the spinner racks. It was almost as if people purchased them furtively . If that was the case it wouldn’t be surprising because comics were seen as something to be mocked by kids (even grade school kids) when they were noticed at all.

    Since the late 70’s I’ve lived in a moderately sized town, and aside from comic book shops there never has been a comics scene in my area. Unless you count the owners of the three places (now all gone) I used to buy comics from over the past 30 years I’ve never known a person in the past thirty years who reads comic books, not one.

    Back in the 80’s I used to see good numbers of people in the comics shop, but they all had foot high stacks of the X-Men, or the latest investment opportunity. Because I had no interest in mainstream comics, there was no reason for me to strike up a conversation with the people I saw lugging around stacks of super hero comics.

    I asked the shop owner why he didn’t stock Love and Rockets, and he said it was because I was the only person who had ever asked about it.

    My perception is there is no ( and never was ) a comics scene in most places outside large cities.

  2. Frank Santoro says:

    Which brings up the double edged sword that is the Internet.

    I always gripe about “kids” who don’t put a physical mailing address on their zines and min-comics – and just list a url or email account. See, I wanna know what scene you are from. Makes a big difference I think.

    Michael DeForge is great. Any wonder that he lives in Toronto?

    There’s a scene on the Internet – but, for me, it’s tough to feel inspired out here in the desert (where I am now) the same way I do when I’m in a room with say Jim Rugg or Dan Nadel.

  3. Ian Harker says:

    Frank’s right, as great as the internet is personal relationships are still super important. For one they are almost infinitely more nuanced and complex. Also as an armchair materialist I tend to believe creativity springs from places/things/scenarios. The internet is still a pretty abstract context.

    I’ve been on a punk/hardcore history kick lately and it makes me think about the parallels between local hardcore scenes back in the day and local comix scenes now. How even the minor players are essential to the process, if for nothing other than providing moral support and audience. I think minor players get ignored more on the internet. It’s easier to bypass them. In person you treat people with more respect because you understand that there is a whole life there not just an opinion on comix or a .jpg. I follow a lot of comix people on twitter and I’m always shocked by the fact that they ONLY talk about comix 99% of the time. What about your life? People bring their life into local scenes, it’s impossible not to. Real things > virtual things.

  4. michael L says:

    I think the abstractness of the internet is mitigated somewhat when one grows up ensconced in it. If your mental schemas for navigating the internet are developing in conjunction with your artistic modes, then it seems logical for it to feel comfortable and familiar when the two converge.

    There are a lot of artists who don’t take “real things > virtual things” as an empirical truth, and their work is all the more interesting for it.

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