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Jenny N
Junior Member posted September 12, 2001 09:28 PM
Sausage: Coop lives in LA, so he's safe. I think he was just letting NYers know about the party going on there.
My heart goes out to you all. It's such a shame.
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Timothy J Miller
Member posted September 13, 2001 12:54 AM
Holy God, Evan. Thank you for sharing, and thanks to God that you're (relatively) okay. I know we don't know each other, but consider yourself hugged, brother.
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Timothy J Miller
Member posted September 13, 2001 01:19 AM
I haven't heard from Rall, but someone is reading his email.
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JLRoberson
Member posted September 13, 2001 01:26 AM
JLR, I am OK, sort of, but how did you know??
I saw your name, twice, I think, on the list of NYC folks alive someone else, ahem, was criticizing the existence of. I just assumed no one had seen it or something. It was (thankfully) a long list.
Jesus, Evan, though, I had no idea how close you came. I am so bloody glad you're OK.
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Dax Delap
Member posted September 13, 2001 01:55 AM
I live in Arkansas, for God's sake, but every major store or building I went to today had police everywhere. It's safe to say things will never truly be the same in the U.S. again. Forget Pearl Harbor, this is the worst attack to the U.S. since the Civil War. Thank God my daughter's only five months old, and is blissfully ignorant of most everything.
Good luck to all who have friends or family missing.
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Lorna Miller
Member posted September 13, 2001 06:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Evan4:
Incredible. I got out with out a physical scratch but the only way to describe how I feel is Shell Shock. It's like I'm my normal self on the surface but inside I'm trembling non-stop.

http://www.ncptsd.org/facts/disasters/fs_effects_disaster.html
I was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder a few years ago. People generally are incredibally resilient and most will be able to get over this disaster. Unfortunately the body's natural reaction to extreme stress can be very distressing and can get out of hand if you don't understand what is happening. It is important to acknowledge if the symptoms starts to disrupt your life and to seek help. Counselling has a bad reputation, but if you do some research yourself and have support of friends and family it is a really worthwhile thing to do. Even if you go for a few sessions, it would be beneficial.
And talking and writing about your experiences, putting your emotions into words is very benefitial. An incredible story of survival Evan, I wish you all the best!
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Pete MacDonald
Member posted September 13, 2001 09:36 AM
Rall's OK, by the way.
http://comicbookgalaxy.com/columnists/rall/opinion.html
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Heidi MacDonald
Member posted September 13, 2001 09:41 AM
Evan:
Thanks for posting that. One of the best accounts I've read yet. Terrifying. Glad you made it.
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John Dorrian
Member posted September 13, 2001 10:16 AM
Evan, your account was terrifying and very moving. I feel kind of presumptuous opening my mouth here...Even by the rather lax standards of internet bulletin boards, I can't say I "know" you at all, since I hardly ever post here anymore. But I'm glad you got through this crisis in one piece. Take care.
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John E Williams
Member posted September 13, 2001 10:24 AM
I remember scrawling a picture of the Towers on Evan's CROCK package, asking something like "Wow! You work HERE?!?"
So glad to know he's OK. What a terrifying experience.
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Steve Hogan
Member posted September 13, 2001 10:32 AM
I sent Evan's recounting to my co-workers this morning. They're all glad you made it. (Me too.)
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Jenny N
Junior Member posted September 13, 2001 11:16 AM
I just found out that Dame Darcy was in NYC on vacation when this happened (she lives in LA now, for those who don't know). She is fine, albeit regretting her trip.
Nobody has word on Gary Leib or M.Wartella?
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jenny
Member posted September 13, 2001 11:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CDW:
I just posted a list of everyone who's been confirmed to be alive in this thread. The full names of 'Cheese0012', 'Adam and Leslie'
and 'jenny' would improve it.
David Weman
(edited cause i'm a idiot)
Thanks. As I mentioned, I'm Jenny Gonzalez and you already have me.
[This message has been edited by CDW (edited September 12, 2001).]
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jenny
Member posted September 13, 2001 11:30 AM
And Leslie is Leslie Sternbergh. I forget Adam's last name. Why did that last post all look bold?
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Cheese0012
Member posted September 13, 2001 12:13 PM
Jebus Evan, that's just amazing. And i thought I was lucky, you sir, are the luckiest man I know. Enjoy every day of the rest of your life, you've earned it.
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Canary
Member posted September 13, 2001 12:49 PM
Evan,
I am so glad that you escaped from the center safe and well and that your friends are safe and well too. I am writing from the UK. Tomorrow the country will be observing three minutes of silence for the people affected by the terrible events. Our thoughts are with you and your fellow New Yorkers at this sad time.
Yours,
Canary
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dylan williams
Member posted September 13, 2001 04:44 PM
Evan, thank you for sharing that. I have been thinking about you all day.
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jenny
Member posted September 13, 2001 07:40 PM
I'm also glad to hear you made it out of there ok Evan. I can't imagine how horrible it must have been. I think I speak for most of us posters in saying talk and write all you need to.
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Rick Bradford
Member posted September 13, 2001 08:51 PM
John and Sandra from Metaphrog were supposed to be making the trip from Scotland. Anybody heard anything?
--Ricko
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Evan4
Junior Member posted September 14, 2001 05:12 AM
thanks everybody.
It all still feels very, very unreal but I'm happy to be hear to post and read your posts.
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Jenny N
Junior Member posted September 14, 2001 04:51 PM
Apparently Eric Reynolds heard via Clowes that the family Leib is doing fine. And I finally heard from M. Wartella, who is safely in Brooklyn. Phew!
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Rick Bradford
Member posted September 14, 2001 07:54 PM
Another thread confirms that Metaphrog is okay.
Where are the They Might Be Giants guys at?
--Ricko
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JLRoberson
Member posted September 15, 2001 02:24 AM
On Comicon I noticed they still say John Bollinger, aka Fanboy 2000(remember him?) is missing. Hope that's not still the case.
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Dirk Deppey
Member posted September 15, 2001 02:46 AM
TMBG were in Portland, OR on Tuesday, and did a show here in Seattle on Thursday.
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Chris Breach, jr member
Member posted September 16, 2001 12:02 AM
TMBG cancelled a few of their US West Coast dates due to the airline shutdown, then hired vans and drove across country to pick up in Portland, if anyone wondered that much. (And let's say they're board-relevant because of Millionaire's history of work for them, if anyone wondered why.)
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JLRoberson
Member posted September 16, 2001 01:53 AM
Forget Pearl Harbor...
Seriously. I'm getting so sick of the media's repetition of that analogy. Maybe in its effect on us emotionally, but Pearl Harbor was an attack on a military target in a colonial territory. This is an attack on home soil upon a civilian target--well, and a military one, but with far more damage intended--and accomplished--to civilians.
The possible death figures, regarding slaughter of civilians in a single day, ranks--potentially--with Babi Yar or Dresden. This was simply an atrocity. Whoever the hell did it.
This, I feel impelled to point out, is the sort of thing people immigrate to this country hoping to be safe from.
I'm worried we might, though, soon commit an atrocity with even more long-range consequences not knowing who, precisely, is responsible--or where precisely they are. As was mentioned on another thread, the Taliban are, to the people of Afghanistan, kind of like the Khmer Rouge. If we use our usual overkill methods we will only kill innocents. The Taliban and Bin Laden, if responsible, will escape and, like Iraq, only the people will suffer, and nothing will be accomplished but enraging the Muslim world.
I think the Afghan-American writer Dirk quoted (if you're curious, on the "Who Can Get News" thread--it's worth reading and sharing with others--it very eloquently delineates just what a powder-keg this situation may be) had it right. This is something we're as good at fighting as the British with their bright red coats were against proto-guerillas shooting them from trees in New England. This is, I fear, sort of a trap.
BTW, Bin Laden's family have, as usual, disowned him:
http://cnn.com/2001/US/09/15/binladen.family.ap/index.html
[This message has been edited by JLRoberson (edited September 16, 2001).]
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Tim Frell
Member posted September 16, 2001 07:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk Deppey:
TMBG were in Portland, OR on Tuesday, and did a show here in Seattle on Thursday.
Thank God TMBG are okay. If one of their droning, pretentious, repetetive songs came on the radio right now---well, heck---I might just jump out the window myself.
Has anybody heard from Philip Glass since Tusday? Or Phoebe Legere, for that matter? Did Lou Reed make it out okay? What about the Cro-Mags? Are they alive?
MY GOD---WHAT ABOUT THE CRO-MAGS?!?
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Author	Topic: New Yorkers- Please Reassure Us
Jenny N Junior Member	posted September 12, 2001 09:28 PM Sausage: Coop lives in LA, so he's safe. I think he was just letting NYers know about the party going on there. My heart goes out to you all. It's such a shame. IP: Logged
Timothy J Miller Member	posted September 13, 2001 12:54 AM Holy God, Evan. Thank you for sharing, and thanks to God that you're (relatively) okay. I know we don't know each other, but consider yourself hugged, brother. IP: Logged
Timothy J Miller Member	posted September 13, 2001 01:19 AM I haven't heard from Rall, but someone is reading his email. IP: Logged
JLRoberson Member	posted September 13, 2001 01:26 AM JLR, I am OK, sort of, but how did you know?? I saw your name, twice, I think, on the list of NYC folks alive someone else, ahem, was criticizing the existence of. I just assumed no one had seen it or something. It was (thankfully) a long list. Jesus, Evan, though, I had no idea how close you came. I am so bloody glad you're OK. IP: Logged
Dax Delap Member	posted September 13, 2001 01:55 AM I live in Arkansas, for God's sake, but every major store or building I went to today had police everywhere. It's safe to say things will never truly be the same in the U.S. again. Forget Pearl Harbor, this is the worst attack to the U.S. since the Civil War. Thank God my daughter's only five months old, and is blissfully ignorant of most everything. Good luck to all who have friends or family missing. IP: Logged
Lorna Miller Member	posted September 13, 2001 06:20 AM quote: Originally posted by Evan4: Incredible. I got out with out a physical scratch but the only way to describe how I feel is Shell Shock. It's like I'm my normal self on the surface but inside I'm trembling non-stop. http://www.ncptsd.org/facts/disasters/fs_effects_disaster.html I was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder a few years ago. People generally are incredibally resilient and most will be able to get over this disaster. Unfortunately the body's natural reaction to extreme stress can be very distressing and can get out of hand if you don't understand what is happening. It is important to acknowledge if the symptoms starts to disrupt your life and to seek help. Counselling has a bad reputation, but if you do some research yourself and have support of friends and family it is a really worthwhile thing to do. Even if you go for a few sessions, it would be beneficial. And talking and writing about your experiences, putting your emotions into words is very benefitial. An incredible story of survival Evan, I wish you all the best! IP: Logged
Pete MacDonald Member	posted September 13, 2001 09:36 AM Rall's OK, by the way. http://comicbookgalaxy.com/columnists/rall/opinion.html IP: Logged
Heidi MacDonald Member	posted September 13, 2001 09:41 AM Evan: Thanks for posting that. One of the best accounts I've read yet. Terrifying. Glad you made it. IP: Logged
John Dorrian Member	posted September 13, 2001 10:16 AM Evan, your account was terrifying and very moving. I feel kind of presumptuous opening my mouth here...Even by the rather lax standards of internet bulletin boards, I can't say I "know" you at all, since I hardly ever post here anymore. But I'm glad you got through this crisis in one piece. Take care. IP: Logged
John E Williams Member	posted September 13, 2001 10:24 AM I remember scrawling a picture of the Towers on Evan's CROCK package, asking something like "Wow! You work HERE?!?" So glad to know he's OK. What a terrifying experience. IP: Logged
Steve Hogan Member	posted September 13, 2001 10:32 AM I sent Evan's recounting to my co-workers this morning. They're all glad you made it. (Me too.) IP: Logged
Jenny N Junior Member	posted September 13, 2001 11:16 AM I just found out that Dame Darcy was in NYC on vacation when this happened (she lives in LA now, for those who don't know). She is fine, albeit regretting her trip. Nobody has word on Gary Leib or M.Wartella? IP: Logged
jenny Member	posted September 13, 2001 11:26 AM quote: Originally posted by CDW: I just posted a list of everyone who's been confirmed to be alive in this thread. The full names of 'Cheese0012', 'Adam and Leslie' and 'jenny' would improve it. David Weman (edited cause i'm a idiot) Thanks. As I mentioned, I'm Jenny Gonzalez and you already have me. [This message has been edited by CDW (edited September 12, 2001).] IP: Logged
jenny Member	posted September 13, 2001 11:30 AM And Leslie is Leslie Sternbergh. I forget Adam's last name. Why did that last post all look bold? IP: Logged
Cheese0012 Member	posted September 13, 2001 12:13 PM Jebus Evan, that's just amazing. And i thought I was lucky, you sir, are the luckiest man I know. Enjoy every day of the rest of your life, you've earned it. IP: Logged
Canary Member	posted September 13, 2001 12:49 PM Evan, I am so glad that you escaped from the center safe and well and that your friends are safe and well too. I am writing from the UK. Tomorrow the country will be observing three minutes of silence for the people affected by the terrible events. Our thoughts are with you and your fellow New Yorkers at this sad time. Yours, Canary IP: Logged
dylan williams Member	posted September 13, 2001 04:44 PM Evan, thank you for sharing that. I have been thinking about you all day. IP: Logged
jenny Member	posted September 13, 2001 07:40 PM I'm also glad to hear you made it out of there ok Evan. I can't imagine how horrible it must have been. I think I speak for most of us posters in saying talk and write all you need to. IP: Logged
Rick Bradford Member	posted September 13, 2001 08:51 PM John and Sandra from Metaphrog were supposed to be making the trip from Scotland. Anybody heard anything? --Ricko IP: Logged
Evan4 Junior Member	posted September 14, 2001 05:12 AM thanks everybody. It all still feels very, very unreal but I'm happy to be hear to post and read your posts. IP: Logged
Jenny N Junior Member	posted September 14, 2001 04:51 PM Apparently Eric Reynolds heard via Clowes that the family Leib is doing fine. And I finally heard from M. Wartella, who is safely in Brooklyn. Phew! IP: Logged
Rick Bradford Member	posted September 14, 2001 07:54 PM Another thread confirms that Metaphrog is okay. Where are the They Might Be Giants guys at? --Ricko IP: Logged
JLRoberson Member	posted September 15, 2001 02:24 AM On Comicon I noticed they still say John Bollinger, aka Fanboy 2000(remember him?) is missing. Hope that's not still the case. IP: Logged
Dirk Deppey Member	posted September 15, 2001 02:46 AM TMBG were in Portland, OR on Tuesday, and did a show here in Seattle on Thursday. IP: Logged
Chris Breach, jr member Member	posted September 16, 2001 12:02 AM TMBG cancelled a few of their US West Coast dates due to the airline shutdown, then hired vans and drove across country to pick up in Portland, if anyone wondered that much. (And let's say they're board-relevant because of Millionaire's history of work for them, if anyone wondered why.) IP: Logged
JLRoberson Member	posted September 16, 2001 01:53 AM Forget Pearl Harbor... Seriously. I'm getting so sick of the media's repetition of that analogy. Maybe in its effect on us emotionally, but Pearl Harbor was an attack on a military target in a colonial territory. This is an attack on home soil upon a civilian target--well, and a military one, but with far more damage intended--and accomplished--to civilians. The possible death figures, regarding slaughter of civilians in a single day, ranks--potentially--with Babi Yar or Dresden. This was simply an atrocity. Whoever the hell did it. This, I feel impelled to point out, is the sort of thing people immigrate to this country hoping to be safe from. I'm worried we might, though, soon commit an atrocity with even more long-range consequences not knowing who, precisely, is responsible--or where precisely they are. As was mentioned on another thread, the Taliban are, to the people of Afghanistan, kind of like the Khmer Rouge. If we use our usual overkill methods we will only kill innocents. The Taliban and Bin Laden, if responsible, will escape and, like Iraq, only the people will suffer, and nothing will be accomplished but enraging the Muslim world. I think the Afghan-American writer Dirk quoted (if you're curious, on the "Who Can Get News" thread--it's worth reading and sharing with others--it very eloquently delineates just what a powder-keg this situation may be) had it right. This is something we're as good at fighting as the British with their bright red coats were against proto-guerillas shooting them from trees in New England. This is, I fear, sort of a trap. BTW, Bin Laden's family have, as usual, disowned him: http://cnn.com/2001/US/09/15/binladen.family.ap/index.html [This message has been edited by JLRoberson (edited September 16, 2001).] IP: Logged
Tim Frell Member	posted September 16, 2001 07:31 AM quote: Originally posted by Dirk Deppey: TMBG were in Portland, OR on Tuesday, and did a show here in Seattle on Thursday. Thank God TMBG are okay. If one of their droning, pretentious, repetetive songs came on the radio right now---well, heck---I might just jump out the window myself. Has anybody heard from Philip Glass since Tusday? Or Phoebe Legere, for that matter? Did Lou Reed make it out okay? What about the Cro-Mags? Are they alive? MY GOD---WHAT ABOUT THE CRO-MAGS?!? IP: Logged